User talk:Anachronist

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On the "criticism of muhammad", you made a complaint after reverting my revision. The revision already included about heresy and demonic influence. Furthermore last line already contained "criticized Muhammad's handling of doctrinal matters and his promises of carnal pleasure in the afterlife" which is synonymous with 'perverted' and 'deplorable man' both of which also seem synonymous. It seemed bit repetitively biased. Now I understand that this is a criticism article but its written is such a way that it does not has any objective lens and there must be least some kind of WP:Balance. Note that I am not in anyway disagreeing about the lenghty details of those critisism in the rest of the article, the lede section in which we write the outline, shouldn't it be written in neutrality. The current content also may not uphold WP:Label. Please correct it or let me correct it. Even historical villains like Hitler and Stalin do not have this level of subjective judgements on their respective article. 182.183.41.97 (talk) 06:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

I have no objection if you try to rewrite it again, but not the way you did before. I know you were attempting to be neutral, but it came across as whitewashing, not conveying what the source actually says. That's why I reverted it. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:50, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Can you be more specific how it came across as whitewashing. The mention of essential critisism 'heretic' and ' possessed by demons' as well as equating with the 'Antichrist' were already included in the revision.

I changed the words like 'perverted', 'deplorable' which seem synonymous with the critique in the last line and changed the word ' false prophet' which is synonymous with 'Antichrist' in the christian context, to uphold WP:Label and WP:WIKIVOICE and WP:BREVITY.

I dont know who wrote the lede but it is written in a WP:TENDENTIOUS way. 182.183.41.97 (talk) 14:09, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

New User with offending Username

Hi, Anachronist! Da du ja auch auf der dewiki aktiv bist, trau ich mich deutsch zu schreiben. Manche Sachen kann ich nicht so gut auf Englisch ausdrücken.

Seit ein paar Tagen fällt mir im Teahouse ein neuer User mit Namen "Fotzendurchfall" auf, muß ich mehr sagen? Ich habe mir die Policy zu den ungeeigneten Usernamen angeschaut, die in solchen Fällen eher zu "ansprechen" raten. Ehrlich gesagt, ICH als Deutsche möchte den User nicht ansprechen...

Hast du eine Lösung, abseits des großen Dramas?

Liebe Grüße --Maresa63 ^Talk 06:10, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Hallo @Maresa63: Ich bin in der deutschen Wikipedia nicht aktiv.

Obwohl meine Mutter Deutsche war und ich in der High School jahrelang Deutsch gelernt habe, habe ich es nie gelernt. Ich schreibe dies mit Google Translate.

Um einen unangemessenen oder anstößigen Benutzernamen zu melden, gehen Sie zu WP:UAA. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:14, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, then I'm sorry. Thought I read your name at dewiki regularly. I shy away from the big drama. And "offending" isn't even a point at UAA (they advise to speak to the user). A name composed of a deregatory term of a female's vagina and diarrhea, please understand, I don't even want to speak to this user. But I can at least ignore it.

Thanks for your answer, and there is no need to translate your replies to german for me! Greetings! --Maresa63 ^Talk 08:13, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

@Maresa63: The purpose of WP:UAA is to report usernames that violate Wikipedia:Username policy. Violations include offensive or derogatory names. No discussion with the user is required if the name is obviously disruptive.

Here on the English Wikipedia, User:Fotzendurchfall has been blocked by Valereee. I don't know if there is an equivalent to WP:UAA on the German Wikipedia, if that user also exists there. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

POV editor has made a mess

See [[1]] Doug Weller talk 07:57, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't know that I can even understand how to fix the mess. I'm also having an odd problem with some keystrokes creating text at the very beginning of my text - only on Wikipedia though.

Hm, seems to start when I put the click on the symbol to ping a user which adds the at symbol. Doug Weller talk 08:41, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: I think (hopefully) that I cleaned it up. The guy created redirects, which is fine, so I targeted them correctly and applied some page protections.

There is a symbol to ping a user? I just type {{ping|username}} in the source editor. Are you using the visual editor? ~Anachronist (talk) 14:20, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

HankT@Anachronist No, using the source editor. What I see above this edit field is a bold B, italic I, and A for styling with a dropdown box, a symbol for linking, one to give me special characters, and a stylized head and shoulders with a plus sign over one shoulder. I'm having problems now with characters I type showing up at the very start of my post before the @ sign. I just tried to type Thank and see what happened! Doug Weller talk 14:40, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: I don't see what you see. I use the source editor too. My icons are (identified by hover text) bold, italic, signature and timestamp, link, images and media, insert a template, and syntax highlighting. Then there are drop-down menus after that for advanced, special characters, help, and cite. I'm using the Chrome browser on a laptop. Maybe it looks different on a mobile device, if that's what you're using? I've never tried to edit Wikipedia from a mobile device. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:16, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

No, I mean when I hit reply to your post above, not when clicking edit. Sorry to confuse you. Doug Weller talk 16:46, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, now I see it. I don't recall hitting that reply link before. When did that appear? I always just edit the section out of habit.

So if I click that little ping icon, I get a '@' symbol with drop-down menu containing your name, and I get this: @Doug Weller ~Anachronist (talk) 16:51, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

@Anachronist Yes, that's it. Should we have Sethubandhanam as a separate article? I can't see why. Doug Weller talk 16:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

I speedy deleted it in accordance with WP:A10. It could be a redirect, however. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:32, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Doug Weller talk 20:42, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Sethubandhanam

Please undelete Sethubandhanam. It was created in 2014, which is clearly not recent (A10 only applies to recently created article[s], and the fact that User:NmWTfs85lXusaybq chose to create a redirect means that the requirement that where the title is not a plausible redirect isn't satisfied either. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:40, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

I created this redirect because it's the primary topic of Sethubandhanam (disambiguation). Since it's an alternative name of Adam's Bridge, it could be blanked and redirected as WP:ATD-R stated. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 06:31, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

A redirect is a good solution. The content of the article had almost no content about the actual subject other than to state it's a synomym, and more content (and citations) about Thriprayar Temple, which holds a celebration. I merged that content into the temple article. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:42, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

I disagree that it's an alternative name of Adam's Bridge: Ram Setu means both the (mythical) bridge from the Ramayana and the extant real-life geographical feature, which are separate things. Many people claim that the former is based on the latter, but even that isn't a sure thing. I would favour undeletion and expansion of the Sethubandhanam article, too. Dāsānudāsa (talk) 11:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@Dāsānudāsa: I have restored the deleted contribution history but left it as a redirect, and it should remain that way because it contained absolutely zero citations about the topic. The only thing that actually had a citation is already merged into [[Thriprayar Temple. When you can flesh it out more with actual citations, feel free to replace the redirect. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:41, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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@ThatOneWolf: Thank you. I used to have a different username there, but got it changed when the Minecraft Wiki migrated, so now they are the same in both places. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

You mention your old username on your user page both here and on the Minecraft wiki, so I would have recognized it by reading your page here, even if it was Anachronist here and Amatulic over there. ThatOneWolf ^{(talk|contribs)} 01:14, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

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Consider unprotection

The LTA responsible for the page protections of Hagger, Grawp, and other pages is gone now. Would you consider unprotection as its hopefully no longer necessary? funplussmart (talk) 22:30, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

@Funplussmart: Because I was the last person who protected Grawp, I have reduced that from extended-confirmed to semi-protection. I had reduced it from full-protection to extended-confirmed in 2020. I didn't protect Hagger. I have no objection to removing protection on that. @Number 57: do you agree? ~Anachronist (talk) 00:39, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Funplussmart: How do we now they are gone? Cheers, Number 57 08:37, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Number 57:, WP:OUTING keeps me from saying a whole lot on-wiki, but let's just say they are physically unable to edit the website. funplussmart (talk) 22:35, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Funplussmart: You can always send us private email. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:52, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

@Funplussmart: Thanks for your email. Unfortunately, he would still have access to the internet where you say he is, but based on what I found, he is no longer there as of August. The protections should be kept in place. @Number 57: FYI. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:12, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Speech synthesis

Hello @Anachronist, hope you're doing well. I was wondering why you reverted my edits on the article Speech synthesis. Mooonswimmer 17:55, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

@Mooonswimmer: I meant to revert only your last, unexplained, unsourced edit about hate speech. I didn't realize that all of the edits were reverted. I have corrected this. Overall, however, I think you gave undue weight to ElevenLabs in your additions. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:59, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Dahua Technology

Hi, Anachronist. I noticed that you enjoy familiarizing yourself with talk page discussions and offering neutral third opinions when needed. I have been working on updating Dahua Technology and am wondering if you'd be interested in reviewing an ongoing discussion on the talk page regarding specific terminology used in the article. I would appreciate your thoughts and assistance with implementing the edits as you see fit. Thank you, Caitlyn23 (talk) 18:46, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

edit request

Hey, looks like I started responding to the edit request before you did. Feel free to erase my response if you want to respond instead Andre🚐 06:16, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

@Andrevan: I just added my comment to yours. I agree with you that "strategic" shouldn't be changed to "tactical" but I felt it best to remove the adjective altogether. A target is still a target, whether strategic or tactical. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:18, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Fine by me. It was a little redundant and wordy, though not technically inaccurate, but your version is an improvement. We had crossed wires at the same time. Andre🚐 06:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

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Hello Anachronist: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, --Dustfreeworld (talk) 12:11, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

MarketingYOR

Sorry about that. I didn't think you were going to tag. Do you know you can use WP:Twinkle to do the block and tag the talk page at the same time? - UtherSRG (talk) 22:32, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

@UtherSRG: Yes I know that, I tried Twinkle many years ago, didn't really like it. I prefer to avoid automated tools in my work here. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:34, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

It has gotten better, but to each their own. - UtherSRG (talk) 22:49, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

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It's been a busy 2 days. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, but it may be resolved before I get to it. ~Anachronist (talk) 22:05, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Excerpt from Barbra Streisand autobiography

I note your request in edit notes "it would be nice to see an excerpt from this book". I'm not sure that's a done thing on WP or how it would be achieved? I understand it is right to cite the book and relevant page numbers, and paraprase what is said there plus "fair use" limited direct quotes, all of which there are currently. Are you suggesting adding to the article a large block of text taken from the book in quotes? Wouldn't this pose copyright issues? What exactly are you suggesting/requesting here in terms of the public-facing page? Walton22 (talk) 21:35, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

@Walton22: Nothing at the moment. My edit summary was intended to mean that I, personally, would like to see the excerpt that serves as the basis for this paragraph in the Wikipedia article. I said this because I am skeptical that Streisand would so blatantly contractict what's already in public records. Maybe sometime I'll see if it's in my local library and look it up. ~Anachronist (talk) 21:41, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Her account is meant to be reported NPOV for WP. I'm not sure if you're questioning that it is a fair paraphrase of what she said in her book? That would be the only WP concern here, surely? Contradicting what is in the public record is the nature of a rebuttal by definition, but still I'm not sure anything in her account even does that: it seems to only attempt to clarify. For example, she doesn't deny that the lawyer went for supression of the photo rather than only removal of her name which she claims is all she wanted, saying that the lawyer went further than her instructions. Again: NPOV about the veracity of her rebuttal, just reporting it. Walton22 (talk) 21:50, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank You for the help

Thank You for helping me protect the Bloomington ECHL team page. As you can see, there's been a number of times I've had to undo edits. By chance, is there a way to extend the protection for more than 2 weeks?...Roberto221 (talk) 01:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@Roberto221: Normally, the first time an article is protected, it is for a short duration in the hope that the disruptive people will leave. Wikipedia is supposed to be for anyone to edit after all, so longer-term protection is applied if disruption resumes. If it starts happening again after protection expires, drop me a note or make a request at WP:RFPP. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your input on Patsy Widakuswara and wp:lede.

I wonder - not to lengthen it, but perhaps just to clarify it, if it might not perhaps be slightly better if the sentence you added were revised as follows .. not a major point, and I am happy with whatever your judgment is.

An incident involving following VOA news director Robert R. Reilly's interview of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo resulted in her removal from the White House beat and subsequent reinstatement 11 days later.

The reason is that it all happened after the interview. At which Reilly did not allow his reporters to pose questions. Rather, it happened as Pompeo was leaving the building. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:5878:D9D:5E2F:BDE3 (talk) 07:14, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that's an improvement. ~Anachronist (talk) 07:22, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

If you agree, might you make the revision, to your own added sentence? Whenever I make a change, one editor seems to enjoy reverting it for some reason.2603:7000:2101:AA00:5878:D9D:5E2F:BDE3 (talk) 08:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Paisley

@Anachronist thanks for telling me about titlecase

Can i use those links you deleted as citations later? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drew Stanley (talk • contribs) 20:09, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

@Drew Stanley: Of the five sources that I removed, three of them are not reliable sources. Two of them were blogs (adamley.co.uk and kashmircompany.com) and one citation was to Wikipedia. None of those are acceptable.

The citation to https://www.naturaldiamonds.com/in/style-innovation/paisely-pattern-journey-beyond-natural-diamond-indian-jewellery/ is written by a journalist, so that would be OK. The citation to https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/gallery/2011/sep/26/paisley-london-fashion-week is also OK because The Guardian is considered a reliable source. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:19, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

@Anachronist: thanks and i will probably find other sources too Drew Stanley (talk) 16:11, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

@Anachronist: I am having trouble organizing the paragraphs. Is there a standard template that i could follow?

@Drew Stanley: Please append your signature on your comments. You can do this by typing four tildes: ~~~~ which are automatically converted to your signature.

The only template I know of is for sections, not individual paragraphs. See MOS:LAYOUT. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

thanks i just learned this recently Drew Stanley (talk) 22:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC) 22:52, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

ARCA closed

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Reversion

This is Hanoi Road, my edit per WP:BANREVERT. However, I probably should've taken the age of the comments into account and just left them alone. Grandpallama (talk) 05:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@Grandpallama: You must be privy to information I am not. Hanoi Road has no contributions to the clean eating article or its talk page, and that account was blocked a full two years before the IP address commented on Talk:Clean eating. How would this be block evasion? Not even a checkuser could conclude that due to the age difference. All I see are a couple of articles in common between the contribution histories of both. While that looks suspicious, it isn't enough for me to conclude that they're the same person. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:52, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm familiar from past interactions both with this IP range he edits out of (there are others I also suspect, but there isn't a clearcut connection) and with his editing behaviors (interests, use of language, claims of personal knowledge, etc.). If the edits were more recent, I would open up a case at SPI and look for a rangeblock, if it were deemed reasonable without too much collateral. If you want to keep digging around, the point of clear connection can be found in the Sean Lucy article in the June 2021 editing where, after he was indeffed, the article was protected because he returned to reinstate his edits. Once you know some of the editor's behavior patterns, he sticks out like a sore thumb when you see him, especially when he edits out of this known IP range. I was pretty inactive during his last spurt of editing, but I will keep an eye out and take it to SPI next time I see it. As I say, given the age of the edits, moving to revert them now was probably overzealous. Grandpallama (talk) 21:39, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Help at AE

Hi, I observed that you have edited the article about Aksai Chin. Please see the AE request here and respond there as an admin. Thanks!-Haani40 (talk) 13:15, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

The only edit I ever made in that article was a minor change to the size of an image. I don't even have that article on my watchlist, so I have not been following it. I have no opinion on the AE request. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:24, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello

I improved your edit on Simon Ekpa. Do well to check it out and give us feedback on the affected discussion talk page. Best regards. Fugabus (talk) 14:37, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

You changed the meaning, which was not an improvement. Reliable sources say he is self-appointed, therefore he appointed himself. That is a relevant distinction to make.

Sorry if you're feeling bullied, I do sympathize, but it's best for new editors to avoid contentious disputes in the beginning. You are arguing with others who are far more well versed in Wikipedia policies and guidelines than you are. I commend you for your approach, by discussing on the talk page in a civil manner and avoiding edit-warring. Please continue to do so, and be careful to restrict your comments to be about the content and not about other editors. ~Anachronist (talk) 19:30, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello

I truly appreciate your involvement the Streisand Effect page and have incorporated some of your points. I think we should be able come to agreement on the lead. I’ve just opened a new topic on that talk page and look forward to a productive dialogue. Both of our have leads improved greatly on what was prior to our involvement. 5ive9teen (talk) 22:51, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Request to review history (tag was already placed and removed)

Thank you for altering the tag. May I ask you please to review the history as the tag you have placed has been there for months after it was removed by the same persons that has placed it. Everything is sourced and except for done minor alterations the text was fine. You can consult the person who has removed it (also many years of experience on Wikipedia), that would be great. Kind regards and a nice evening. Ewout12345 (talk) 20:17, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

As long as you keep making substantive changes to the article instead of proposing those changes on the talk page using edit requests, that tag will keep being restored. You can make minor corrections to spelling, grammar, dates, names, etc. You can revert obvious vandalism. You can add missing citations. Anything more substantive, however, you should propose on the talk page. You may preface your proposal with the template {{Edit COI}} to cause your request to be listed on a catagory page that is monitored by some editors. ~Anachronist (talk) 20:23, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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