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No selfpromotion D.A. Borgdorff ?[編集]

私はあんまり日本語を書けませんとオランダ人Borgdorffさんはぜんぜん日本語を分からないと思いますから次の部分は英語です。ごめなさい。

Hello mr. D.A. Borgdorff, in February you added at the 関連項目-section 3 items completely written in romaji. One in French the other two in English [1]. A few days ago Wikipedia user Fryed-peachさん (who has been a very active user on the Japanese Wikipedia since June 2006) decided to remove those 3 items [2]. On March 4 at 20:59 JST you restored those lines which included the text "traduction libre par : D.A. Borgdorff". I thought the edit of Fryed-peachさん to remove those lines were a logic decision so I removed those 3 lines because

  1. this is the Wikipedia in the Japanese language. Visitors to this page are usually not able to read difficult technical English documents not to mention difficult technical French documents
  2. the item about the document written by René-Louis Vallée seems not on-topic
  3. one item contained a selfreference which seems to be self promotion

Therefor I also removed the same lines that Fryed-peachさん removed in February. On March 5 at 10:03 JST you added those lines again writing 

Undo "destruction" of info by Robotje --- ing. DAB +>

About 10 minutes later I reverted that edit and on March 5 at 10:25 JST you reverted that again (but now leaving out your self reference). So within 24 hours you reverted 3 times some text (although the last one had a minor difference) that had been removed by Fryed-peachさん in February:

  1. March 4 at 20:59 JST
  2. March 5 at 10:03 JST
  3. March 5 at 10:25 JST

Also at the Japanese Wikipedia that is against the Wikipedia:Three-revert rule! I hope from now on you can show more respect to the rules of the Japanese Wikipedia community.

Can you please explain to us

  1. Why do you think visitors to the Japanese Wikipedia who are interested in the article ド・ブロイ波 are able to read documents that are written in difficult technical English and French?
  2. Why do you think the document written by René-Louis Vallée is very relevant here? He is not so famous and the topic of that document seems not to be the same as this article.
  3. Why is the self reference so important that you placed it back so many times? You made that self reference not only on the Japanese Wikipedia on this article but also on about 15 other Wikipedia's in articles linked through the interwiki's like on the Bulgarian Wikipedia [3], the Chinese Wikipedia [4], the Hebrew Wikipedia [5], the Swedish Wikipedia [6], etc. On several of those Wikipedia's you even restored that several times even though it was removed by the locally active Wikipedia users. Just like here on the Japanese Wikipedia. To me that looks like spamming.

Best Regards, Robotje 2008年3月5日 (水) 06:46 (UTC)[返信]

In the last 4 days I didn't get any reply from mr. Borgdorff so I reverted the article to the version of Fryed-peach-san + latest interwiki's. - Robotje 2008年3月9日 (日) 07:23 (UTC)[返信]
Dear Robotje, for the moment because of illness i'll have no problems with it anymore everymore nomore or more whatevermore. Though High Esteem Yours Faithfully &c. - D.A. borgdorff (with small B) by: 86.83.155.44 2008年3月10日 (月) 15:53 (UTC)[返信]

ヒット数?[編集]

「ド・ブロイ波」から「物質波」に移動されるにあたり、Google でのヒット数を根拠として要約欄に書かれてらっしゃいましたが、それぞれヒット数はいくつでしたか? 私から検索すると「"ドブロイ波"」879件、「"ド・ブロイ波"」約11,000件、「"物質波"」約10,700件となり（検索ワードはこのような場合の定法として引用符でくるんでいます）、明らかな差があるようには見えませんでした。--Su-no-G 2009年3月16日 (月) 10:06 (UTC)[返信]

「検索」ボタンを連射すると「"ド・ブロイ波"」が 2,420件に減りました（なぜに???）。「物質波」がより使われている雰囲気はあるようですので、物理なユーザーさんで必要をお感じになられましたら改名提案をお願いします。--Su-no-G 2009年3月16日 (月) 10:33 (UTC)[返信]
やり直すと
  • "material wave" 約10,200
  • "de Broglie wave" 約17,500
  • 物質波 約 549,000
  • "物質波" 約 16,100
  • ド・ブロイ波　約 11,000
  • "ド・ブロイ波" 約 2,470
  • "ドブロイ波" 891
でした。圧倒的に物質波の方がおおいですね。英語では逆ですが。困ったときのオンライン学術用語集物理学編は物質波とドブロイ波です。--あら金 2009年3月16日 (月) 21:27 (UTC)[返信]
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